Passing 4 Normal Podcast

Conversations with Artists, Authors and Awakeners about Seeding Change in the World. 

Passing 4 Normal Podcast, hosted by Sharon Weil, is a show about Change. Her guests are remarkable, everyday heroes who create and adapt to change in their own unique and inspiring ways…and inform how you can too! Join us for lively discussions, fascinating insight, and valuable information about the one certainty in life…Change.

 

This acclaimed podcast has inspired the book, ChangeAbility: How Artists, Activists, and Awakeners Navigate Change. (Archer/Rare Bird Books)

 

Listen below, on SoundCloud or on iTunes

Season One

 

Creativity

Change, One Box at a Time
Amy McEachern

Moving, Packing and Organizing Specialist

Amy talks about the excitement, resistance and personal reflection that comes with changing locations and moving our “stuff,” and how you can manage, and even embrace, yours.

Creative Translation
Jackie Welch Schlicher

Actress, Singer, Writer, Ceramicist

The Art of Agreement
Adam Wolpert

Painter, Group Facilitator, Co-dir. Intentional Communities OAEC

Adam looks for patterns as the way to see change in art, nature and group dynamics. Recognizing a framework in the face of flux gives you a welcomed map for the journey.

Words & Waves
Rebecca Mark

Writer, Poet, Professor at Tulane University

Rebecca shares her unique way of unearthing writing through movement. The results are unexpected stories that come from creative depths that anyone can plumb.

Why I Pass for Normal
Sharon Weil

Writer, Filmmaker, Host of Passing 4 Normal Podcast

By “passing for normal” Sharon’s been able to slip revolutionary ideas into the mainstream. She asks her guests about their own personal bravery as a way to inspire others.

Embodiment & Meditation

The Breathable Body
Robert Litman

Movement and Breath Educator

Breath is our most essential nourishment, yet we only pay attention when something is wrong. Learn how to change your entire health just by changing the way you breathe.

The Anatomy of Anxiety
Robert Litman

Movement and Breath Educator

The physiology, emotions, and sensations of anxiety are triggered by locked patterns of breathing. Soothe your anxiety by changing your breathing.

Becoming a Change Artist
Fred Sugerman

Movement Artist and Educator

What is the space between performance and healing arts? Fred Sugerman tells us how authentic, expressive movement brings self-discovery that leads to shape-shifting change.

Embodiment Secrets for Women
Camille Maurine

Performance Artist, Author, Embodied Meditation Teacher

Meditation and embodiment mentor, Camille Maurine, offers 12 Meditation Secrets for Women and tells how to discover passion, pleasure, and inner peace through embodied practice.

Listening with my Hands
Harvey Ruderian

Structural Bodyworker: Aston Patterning, Rolfing, Cranial Sacral

Master bodyworker, Harvey Ruderian presents an entirely new and fluid way of viewing the body. The discovery is made through deep listening.

Food & Ecology

GMO: The Uncertain Peril
Claire Hope Cummings

Environmental lawyer, journalist and author of Uncertain Peril: Genetic Engineering and the Future of Seeds.

Renowned GMO expert provides new insight into why GMO technology is perilous for agriculture and our health.

We Have the Solutions
Penny Livingston-Stark

Co-founder Regenerative Design Institute

Permaculture expert, Penny Livingston-Stark, talks about solutions for climate health, food, water collection, and soil/carbon sequestration, and why we aren’t using the innovative strategies we already have. 

Saving the Sea
Michael Stocker

Exec. Dir. Ocean Conservation Research

Bio-acoustician, naturalist, and musician, Stocker speaks of sound perception as the way we locate ourselves. He talks about how noise pollution in the oceans is interrupting marine life’s ability to locate, communicate, and thrive.

You Are What You Eat
Ann Gentry

Founder Real Food Daily Restaurants, Los Angeles

Vegan chef and restaurant owner, Ann Gentry, sorts out the confusion over which “healthy” diet to follow. Vegan? Gluten-free? Change what you eat to change your health.

Permaculture & the Ecology of Leadership
James Stark

Co-founder Regenerative Design Institute

Permaculture leader and creative, community organizer, James Stark, talks about how to align with Nature and natural processes in tending one’s own “inner garden,” so that the seeds of our new visions can grow.

Communities are Ecosystems
James Stark

Co-founder Regenerative Design Institute

James Stark views communities as ecosystems. He explains how we can look to Nature’s design to create healthy communities that are dynamic, interdependent and adaptable to change whether it’s a village, a neighborhood or a marriage. 

Revisioning Medicine

Revisioning Medicine
Deena Metzger

Author, Teacher, Healer

Deena Metzger envisions a culture of medicine that heals both the individual and the Earth at the same time. She shares from a life’s work using story, spirit, and indigenous healing practices to bring about personal and global coherence.

Trauma, Fear and Restoring Resilience
Amber Gray

Body-based psychotherapist

Amber Gray helps restore resilience in the most extreme circumstances through body-based therapy and education. As a somatic therapist and psychotherapist, she works with extreme interpersonal and social trauma where bodies have been made to lock down in fear or terror.

Integrating Alternative/Mainstream Medicine
John Weeks

Exec. Dir. Academic Consortium for Complementary and Alternative Health Care (ACCAHC)

Integrating disciplines of complementary and alternative medicine into mainstream medical training, policy, and practice. John shows us how to win an uphill battle, making a large impact in incremental ways.

Social Change

The Passionate Filmmaker
Corinne Bourdeau

Producer / PR - Social Change Films

A captivating issue-oriented film can have a huge effect on the beliefs, hearts, and actions of the public. Corinne shares her innovative strategies for how to use film on the frontline of seeding awareness and change.

Strategic Giving for Social Change
Beth Rosales

Senior Philanthropic Advisor

For over 35 years, Beth has been guiding others to strengthen social justice movements through strategic charitable giving. She shares how you can focus even small amounts of money towards the causes you believe in.

Magicians Without Borders
Tom Verner & Janet Fredericks

Magician, Artist, Citizen Ambassadors

Magicians Without Borders travel to refugee camps and orphanages around the words bringing magic and laughter to some of the most war-torn, forgotten places. Magic brings hope that change is possible, even from unseen places.

Soul of a Citizen
Paul Rogat Loeb

Writer, Speaker, Activist, Awakener

For years, Paul has been awakening citizen engagement on behalf of necessary change. He shares simple steps one can take towards effective grassroots involvement in social action - leading from the heart - to help change the world, one action at a time.

GRIP - Guiding Rage Into Power
Jacques Verduin

Director, Insight-Out

Jacques works in prisons with inmates, many of whom are serving life sentences for violent crimes. Yet, he helps these men transform themselves into non-violent peacekeepers. Learn how to guide rage into power, through awareness, mediation, forgiveness, and community.

Spirituality

The Spirit of All Things
Amanda Foulger

Core Shaman Practitioner and Teacher

Amanda tells us how we can return our lives and our world to the sacred. By honoring plants, animals, and the spirits that inhabit them and guide us, we have the great supported capacity to change the world.

Portals to Inner Change
Rachel Lang

Astrological Consultant, Healer

Rachel masterfully uses her astrological expertise and her intuitive gifts to help people discover the blocks to their own passion so they can follow their hearts. Learn how to follow your own passion, and watch your world expand.

Season Two: ChangeAbility

 

Find Community
Deena Metzger & Amanda Foulger

Spark Fire
Camille Maurine & Rachel Lang

Deena Metzger and Amanda Foulger engage with community in every aspect of the healing and teaching work they each do. The support needed for change comes from both seen and unseen communities: helpful people, ancestor spirits, plant and animal spirit guides. In walking hundreds of people through transformative change, Deena and Amanda share how they teach others how to locate the multi-dimensional support they need, and to trust the support they receive.

Meditation mentor, Camille Maurine, and intuitive astrologer, Rachel Lang, Spark Fire as they discuss passion, pleasure, and finding your purpose. Uncovering your passion motivates action that can burn through fear, reluctance, and ambivalence. Riding the wild currents of your own passion requires a play of both courage and tenderness. Listen to find out how.

Align with Nature
Penny Livingston-Stark & James Stark

Bring Awareness
Jacques Verduin & Robert Litman

Nature is change. Permaculture experts Penny Livingston-Stark and James Stark explore how to facilitate change with more ease when we Align with Nature. The natural world provides all the examples and support we need to adapt to any changing circumstance, both internal and external, real or in metaphor; whether we dwell in the forest or in the middle of the city.

Meditation mentor, Camille Maurine, and intuitive astrologer, Rachel Lang, Spark Fire as they discuss passion, pleasure, and finding your purpose. Uncovering your passion motivates action that can burn through fear, reluctance, and ambivalence. Riding the wild currents of your own passion requires a play of both courage and tenderness. Listen to find out how.

Amber Gray and Fred Sugerman use body-based therapies and practices to inspire hope and change. New possibilities for health, healing, well-being, and pleasure rather than pain, can be discovered through movement, new sensations, and the unwinding of old and painful patterns. When we can reframe our felt experience, we can Have Hope for new outcomes. Listen to how.

Have Hope
Amber Gray & Fred Sugerman

Listen Deeply
Jackie Welch-Schlicher &

Rebecca Mark

Jackie Welch-Schlicher and Rebecca Mark are both artists who have mastered the art of listening deeply, receptivity and response, and playing with the magic of the unexpected. Each of them uses “an open hand” when crafting their work, which allows the artistic expression to reflect the improvisational nature of life. The practice of trust rather than control, receiving rather than forcing, keeps the work fresh and alive no matter what the form or task.

Season Three: ChangeAbility

 

Proceed Incrementally
Paul Rogat Loeb & John Weeks

Paul Loeb, social and political activist, discusses integration and change with John Weeks, integrative medicine practitioner.

Seeing with the Eyes of Wonder
Susan Harper

Teacher and founder of Continuum Montage

Susan Harper, founder of Continuum Montage, creates experiential contexts for perception and movement awareness, and creative expression. Susan and Sharon discuss how to engage the world as if for the first time through “eyes of wonder”, and how to find the safety required to take the risks involved in meeting the unknown.

Courting Change: Living Ritual & Elemental Theater
Susan Harper

Teacher and founder of Continuum Montage

Living Rituals are contexts designed to shift consciousness from the habitual into a much larger perspective and experience of the possibility of interconnected living. Through participation with the elements, dreams, and living symbols, these contexts open doors to personal understanding, making the unknown more visible, and allowing meaningful change to occur. 

Change your Home to Change your Life
Tisha Morris

Feng Shui Expert, Author, Life Coach

Tisha and Sharon discuss the relationship between your home, your body, and your life. Tisha tells how to create change in your life through clearing and rearranging your home environment, including clearing your clutter. 

ChangeAbility: Restoring Balance after WTF?!
Sharon Weil

Author, Podcast Host

Sharon Weil talks about how to find balance after this shocking election. She applies the principles of ChangeAbility to this enormous, surprising, and potentially dangerous change. First we must acknowledge what has happened and acknowledge our grief, rest and restore our balance, gather in community, find new strategies, find common values, and work like crazy on behalf of what we dearly love. Listen and find strength. With guest host, Rachel Lang.

Media for Social Change
Dale Bell and Harry Wiland

Co-founders of Media Policy Center

Dale Bell and Harry Wiland, co-founders of Media Policy Center, are award-winning documentary filmmakers, media producers, and agents of social change. Dale, Harry and Sharon discuss the role media plays in inspiring social change, and their particular model for transforming inspiration into action steps on behalf of essential issues such as: greener cities, the VW emissions scandal, and elder care.

A Tool Kit for Post Election Distress Syndrome
Amber Gray

Somatic Psychologist, Trauma Specialist

Have you felt immobilized by the results of this presidential election? Shut down? Off-balance? Amber Gray talks with Sharon Weil about how real and imagined terror and fear affect the body, creating either a shutting down response or an impulse towards fight or flight action. She provides essential and helpful insight and tools for finding calm, restoration, and a return to mobility and social engagement after difficult events. These tools apply to any stressful, shocking, or life-altering change. Listen and find comfort in her words.

Speaking Up, Laughing It Up, Together
Wendy Hammers

Actress, Writer, Stand-up comic, founder of Tasty Words spoken-word salon

Wendy Hammers presents hilarious, heartwarming, and heartbreaking stories of personal change. A good story is an interaction between the storyteller and the witness that will transform each of them. A funny story quickly provides an unexpected prospective. She spoke with Sharon Weil about creating community, the empowerment of storytelling, and the healing properties at the core of both.

Meditation for a Modern World
Lorin Roche

Meditation Master, Teacher, Author

Having studied meditation traditions from all over the world, he offers embodied meditation practices for the 21st century. Lorin says there are many portals to meditation, and a meditation practice can be individual and should be joyous, according to a person’s desires and tendencies. He speaks about how to enter meditation through the senses, not by “quieting the mind.” Listen for an entirely new kind of invitation into deep rest, full presence, and meditation

 

Season Four

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Crisis can bring us to our knees or teach us to grow. As a therapist, organizational consultant, author and speaker, Dr. Susan Mecca guides others to find their best selves in the worst of times. Here, she discusses her recent book, The Gift of Crisis, and offers specific tools for surviving and thriving serious times of disruption and sudden change.

Changing the Conversation about Women
Naama Bloom

Founder of Hello Flo

Does the way a woman talks about her body determine how she will engage with the world? Naama Bloom, founder of Hello Flo, has been opening up the conversation for young women about their bodies and their health through humor and straight answers. Her book, Hello Flo: The Guide, Period. empowers young women to ask questions, make good choices, change the conversation and change their lives.

The Gift of Crisis
Susan Mecca Ph.D.

Therapist, Author, Speaker, Consultant

The Vagina Revolution

Dr. Sherry Ross

OB/GYN, author, health expert

Honest talk empowers women. OB/GYN, author, and health expert, Dr. Sherry, provides positive, shameless conversation about women’s bodies, health, and sex. She speaks about her recent book, She-ology, The Definitive Guide to Women’s Intimate Health. Period. and about the vagina dialogue at every phase, including the later, sometimes forgotten, stages of a woman’s life.

Clutter Intervention
Tisha Morris

Author, Healer, Designer, Feng Shui expert

What is your clutter actually covering up? Author, healer, designer and feng shui expert, Tisha Morris, talks about all the underlying reasons we hold on to our stuff, and compassionately offers ways to align with the lives we want – freed of what’s keeping us stuck. If everything in your home is an extension of your identity, who do you now want to be?

So No One Faces Cancer Alone
Julia Forth & Dr. Shannon La Cava

Directors of Cancer Support Community, LA

A cancer diagnosis can bring overwhelming and frightening change. The Cancer Support Community (CSC) is the nation’s leading provider of psychosocial education and support services to cancer patients, their families, and caregivers. Executive director, Julia Forth and Program Director, Dr. Shannon La Cava of CSC Los Angeles discuss the essential connection between emotional wellbeing and physical wellbeing in treating the disease of cancer while living full lives with cancer--and perhaps even fuller lives because of cancer.

Get Out the College Vote
Paul Rogat Loeb

Activist, Author, Speaker

Can young voters impact the midterm elections? Citizen activist and author, and speaker, Paul Rogat Loeb founded the nonpartisan Campus Election Engagement Project to engage twenty million college students across the country in the election process: to register, volunteer in campaigns, educate themselves and turn out at the polls. Find out how you can make your vote count.

Building Resilience

Susan Mecca, Ph.D.

Therapist, Author, Speaker, Consultant

Resilience is the most necessary quality to possess in order to meet the changes, upheavals, and setbacks of life. That response of strength and flexibility comes more easily to some than others, but it’s a skill that can be developed. Dr. Susan Mecca and Sharon Weil discuss what is needed to build increased resilience in any and all situations in order to walk back from crisis or loss, and thrive.

Reframing Midlife
Amy Nobile

Author

Are you a woman asking, “What’s Next?” Amy Nobile and her co-author and business partner, Trisha Ashworth are rewriting the rules of midlife for the next generation with great humor and candor in their book Just When You’re Comfortable in Your Own Skin, It Starts to Sag. Amy reframes how women can find balance, purpose, and fulfillment as they embrace the next phase of life after 40, 50 and beyond.

Are you a woman asking, “What’s Next?” Amy Nobile and her co-author and business partner, Trisha Ashworth are rewriting the rules of midlife for the next generation with great humor and candor in their book Just When You’re Comfortable in Your Own Skin, It Starts to Sag. Amy reframes how women can find balance, purpose, and fulfillment as they embrace the next phase of life after 40, 50 and beyond.

Starting a Movement for Veterans

Cheryl Montelle

Writer, Producer, Movement Educator

Have you ever felt so strongly about an issue that you were compelled to take action, or even start a movement? Writer, producer, and movement educator Cheryl Montelle created Mil-Tree in order to provide a place of belonging: bringing together veterans, active military, and civilians to address the soul-wounds of war through community, communication, and artful expression.

The Transformational Power of Dreaming
Tom Verner

Magician, Author

Where do dreams come from and what do they tell us? Psychotherapist and magician, Tom Verner, talks about the magical realm of the dream world, and how our dreams inform and activate us in the waking world—revealing to us our soul’s purpose and desire. Tom Verner and Stephen Larsen co-authored the definitive book, The Transformational Power of Dreaming.  

Earth Ceremony & Rites of Passage

Miguel Rivera

Musician, Ceremony Leader, Mentor, Guide

Miguel Rivera is a deeply regarded musician, ceremony leader, and mentor guide facilitating people to find healing in community, in connection to the earth, and in connection to Native American earth-based traditions. His work with at-risk youth and veterans provide rites of passage, energetic transformation, and ways of restoring wholeness where belonging has long been fragmented.

The Fertile Space Between Art & Healing

Ping Ho

Founder and Exec. Dir. of UCLArts and Healing

Why are the arts such a potent portal into self-discovery, empowerment, and mental health and well-being? Ping Ho, founding director of UCLArts and Healing discusses the transformational power of art, music, dance, writing, and drama, and the integrative healing that can be invoked through our immersion and participation in creative forms.

Miguel Rivera is a deeply regarded musician, ceremony leader, and mentor guide facilitating people to find healing in community, in connection to the earth, and in connection to Native American earth-based traditions. His work with at-risk youth and veterans provide rites of passage, energetic transformation, and ways of restoring wholeness where belonging has long been fragmented.

Season Five

Drawing Attention Beneath the Surface

Laurie Lipton

Artist

Laurie Lipton is a visionary artist whose vision is at once disturbing, ironic, and full of piercing truth. Her intricate pencil drawings are biting social commentary revealing the mechanisms behind the façade, isolation in the age of social media, and questions about control. What is the artist’s role in bringing others to awareness? Find out in this fun and insightful interview.

Safe to Breathe?

Robert Litman

Breath and Movement Expert

Wildfires on the west coast are a new normal; challenging our ability to breathe and to remain calm when the fires burn around us. Breath and movement expert, Robert Litman discusses how to protect your breathing during wildfire season or in times when the air is not suitable. Your life could depend upon it.

Drawing Attention Beneath the Surface

Laurie Lipton

Artist

Laurie Lipton is a visionary artist whose vision is at once disturbing, ironic, and full of piercing truth. Her intricate pencil drawings are biting social commentary revealing the mechanisms behind the façade, isolation in the age of social media, and questions about control. What is the artist’s role in bringing others to awareness? Find out in this fun and insightful interview.

Safe to Breathe?

Robert Litman

Breath and Movement Expert

Wildfires on the west coast are a new normal; challenging our ability to breathe and to remain calm when the fires burn around us. Breath and movement expert, Robert Litman discusses how to protect your breathing during wildfire season or in times when the air is not suitable. Your life could depend upon it.

 

Financial Stress Reduction

Chellie Campbell

Financial Stress Reduction Coach and Author

Do you stress about spending too much while earning too little? Financial Stress Reduction coach and author, Chellie Campbell is lively, wise, and entertaining as she talks about how to change your mindset around all the messages we carry about money --whether you have none or tons. She’ll help you finance the changes you want for your life in peace and prosperity.

Transformational Self-care 

Bonnie Gintis, DO

Osteopathic Physician, Continuum teacher,

Mindfulness-Based Stress Reduction instructor

The human body is a creative process, with many portals to health and well-being. Dr. Bonnie Gintis, DO, uniquely combines osteopathy, mindfulness, Continuum, and other body-awareness practices to expand the possibilities of deeply caring for ourselves and others--becoming full participants in our own health and healing.

Dreaming to Change

Debbie Spector Weisman

Certified Dream-Life Coach

Dream-Life Coach, Debbie Spector Weisman, guides people in how to utilize the rich images and messages of the dream world to enact changes in their waking lives. Listen to how you can become more attuned to this wonderful, nightly resource that is always available for self-discovery.

Healing in Nature: A New Model for Integrative Health

Anna O'Malley, MD 

Integrative and Family Community Medical Physician

Dr. Anna O’Malley is an Integrative Family and Community medical doctor seeking a more integrated, self-engaged and restorative model for health and wellness that includes modern medicine, food choices, community and a deep connection to the natural world. She is the founder/director of the Natura Institute for Ecology and Medicine in Bolinas, California, offering nature-based health education programs.  

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